Water, sewer deal near?
The town and county are moving down a road for a mutual agreement on a water and sewer authority and boundary line adjustment — finally.
Cooler heads prevailed on both sides at last night’s joint meeting of Culpeper Town Council and the Culpeper County Board of Supervisors as the gathering of 15 elected officials reached something like consensus on various key points of the complex deal.
Councilman Duke duFrane was absent.
By the end of the nearly two-hour meeting, council and the supervisors had found common ground on several terms on which they had previously disagreed.
Agreement, at least for the time being, was reached on the following:
* The town’s future geographic growth would take place in areas spelled out on the county’s water and sewer service area map from 2007; that map, generally speaking, includes the town and its environs on all sides, except for the west side.
* The town’s future growth then would be directly tied to areas of water and sewer infrastructure with the town expanding as the lines did.
* Yet-to-be negotiated economic “triggers,” based on commercial tax revenue, for example, would spark the town’s geographic growth, occurring in contiguous areas.
* For at least the next 25 years, the town, which currently spans about 6.8 square miles, would be limited to a maximum size of 15 square miles. Some councilmen were not completely sold on this point, but agreed to consider it further.
* The town would agree to not pursue hostile annexation for the next 25 years; again there was some disagreement here, but it seemed to be a negotiable point.
* Deliberate attention would be paid to preserving agricultural land.
* The town would not boundary adjust areas that are already intensely developed with industrial uses, but could potentially take in areas intended for future industrial, again, as designated by the revenue triggers.
In exchange for the county allowing the town to grow, the town would agree to relinquish control of its water and sewer system to an independent authority that would own the system and set rates for users in the water and sewer service areas.
Ultimately, however, it’s up to town voters to approve the transfer of the town utility assets.
Therefore, the entire agreement for a water and sewer authority and boundary line adjustment hinges on voters’ approval.
Some county representatives wanted the question to go to town voters in a referendum vote in May, when the Town Council election will be held.
But town officials felt that was too soon and did not provide ample opportunity for town citizens to understand the deal. Councilmen felt November would be a better time for the referendum, and that point, eventually, was also mutually agreed upon.
Either way, pointed out County Attorney Roy Thorpe, the referendum question to town voters needed to be kept simple, or as he described it, able to pass “the 7-Eleven test.”
Is it something people standing in line at the convenience store could explain amongst themselves before they checked out? Then it would pass the test, he said. “The simpler you keep it the more likely it is to pass.”
Of the 15 politicians present last night, Supervisors Sue Hansohn, Larry Aylor and Tom Underwood should be recognized for keeping the discussion moving in a forward motion along with Councilmen Jim Risner, Chip Coleman and Chris Snider on the town side.
Both bodies agreed to meet again Feb. 4 at 6 p.m. at which time the respective staffs would present specific bullet points of the new areas of agreement.
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Cecil,
Thank you for the additional explanation and for your support in the election. I agree with the sentiments expressed here by you, Brewer and Lawman. Much is at stake for the Town citizens. I hope everyone is keeping abreast of the issue as well as you three. As I said before, never hesitate to contact me with questions. Please introduce yourself if you ever see me out and about in Culpeper!
Take care,
Chris Snider
lawman
the comment was “looks like you was just canned” if that is a cheap shot then so be it. I have nothing against Mr Snider I am sure he is doing a great job or I would not have voted for him in the last election.
Mr Snider
Maybe I am unlike most people, if you post on this blog or any other blog I am going to take it as your view and not the untire Town Council view as I would hope each member has there own view on this subject.
brewer
I to would hope that every Town resident would think about this issue before they cast a vote or at least the one that will actually vote
Cecil,
Sorry for the tardiness in this reply. Had to run to Manassas.
I agree with you in that the County wants something for very little.
I also know Chris well enough to know he is sincere. I’ll email him in time with the questions. If you look at these posts on almost any topic, you can easily see how things are taken out of context, and I don’t blame him for not wanting to start something here. At least Chris is attempting to converse with us.
My main point here is to make the citizens think. There are several that think the solution to the County sewer problem is to do away with the Town. At the same time, the County residents aren’t smart enough to pass a meals tax.
I want every Town resident to think about what they are giving up, who they are giving it to, and what they are getting in return before they vote for this.
Actually the truth is I wish the Town would tell the County where to go. The County demanded an answer in 90 days back in the fall of 2006. The Town complied, but the County didn’t like the answer. Until last night, each counter offer from the County has been less than the previous.
That is a cheap shot Cecil. Chris Snider has always responded to me by email, called me at home and on my cell phone. I have never been canned by him. I have and will continue to give him my full support. An elected official provides his Blackberry email in addition to what his town email is. Chris has responded to me every single time. We have met numerous times in person and I have been more than satisfied. I don’t believe that you really know him.
Cecil,
I’m not canning anyone. I offered my email address in a good faith gesture to continue dialog with someone interested in this issue. The same offer applies to you or anyone else who would like to ask me a specific question about a Town government related issue. I’m hesitant to post my view on an issue on a blog and have it distorted to be the view of the entire Town Council.
If you knew me personally, you would know that I do not “can” people and that my offer is genuine and sincere.
Chris Snider, Councilman
Town of Culpeper, Virginia
Brewer
Looks like you just got canned by chsnider, by that I mean you just got a form letter, just in case you didn’t know what canned means. It still looks like to me that the town will be giving up to much for little bit it will be getting.
Brewer,
I posted my email previously. You have asked some very specific questions. It is obvious that you are up on the details of this issue. Please feel free to contact me any time, and I will do my best to explain as I understand the situation in its current state.
Regards,
Chris Snider
chris.snider@sprint.blackberry.net
I’m not sure I like the second bullet. The Town is free to give up its infrastructure today, but can’t expand if there is no growth?
To the last bullet, is the Lowe’s, Co-op, Target area considered industrial or commercial? Is Terramark considered industrial? I’m having trouble finding in my mind any intensely industrial uses close enough to the existing Town border for this to matter to the BOS. Someone please give me the examples. Could this language create another West Berlin?
We also need to read very carefully the fine print on the economic triggers.
If this comes off, we (the voters) need a way to control the Authority. If Council or our Supervisor screws up, we can replace them every four years. How can we keep the Authority in check?


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