Meals tax: ‘tough sell’
Members of the Culpeper County Board of Supervisors are convinced that a proposed meals tax is the best way to stave off possible real estate and personal property tax hikes.
So on Election Day, for the fourth time in four years, voters will decide if they’ll be willing to pay up to four percent more for prepared foods and snacks.
“I don’t know what the chances are going to be,” said Jefferson District Supervisor Brad Rosenberger, but “I hope that it does pass.”
Background
In August, the Board of Supervisors accepted a recommendation from the county’s Rules Committee, agreeing to place the question up for a vote.
In November 2004, 2005 and 2006, county voters defeated the measure by a margin of about 11 percent, according to the county’s Web site.
If approved, the supervisors would then enact an ordinance imposing the tax. By law, the tax could not exceed 4 percent of the total of the purchase. For a $6 fast food meal, that equals about 24 cents.
For a meal that costs $40, that would equal about $1.60. Groceries and packaged foods would be excluded. Only businesses in the county would be affected; patrons of town businesses already pay a similar tax.
“I think that people that eat in town don’t even realize it — you’re paying it every time,” said Cedar Mountain District Supervisor Larry Aylor, who added that it might “level the playing field” between county and town restaurants.
“Culpeper’s become a destination, and (visitors are) spending their money, Aylor said. “When they’re in town, the town’s getting that, and when they go out in the county, we’re not.”
Stevensburg District Supervisor and board chairman Bill Chase agreed.
“I think that people don’t understand it. That’s the reason that people haven’t passed it in the past.”
It is not clear how much potential revenue a county meals tax might generate because no formal revenue projections have been made, but Rosenberger described it as significant. Most of the restaurants in the county are well-known national and regional chains that occupy the Bus. 29 corridor just north of downtown.
And with more state funding cuts to critical projects likely, Aylor said that governments are left with few options to maintain their revenue stream.
“You’re getting less money — that’s got to be made up somehow — or you have to not be able to provide the same level of service,” he said.
Supervisor: ‘Tough sell’
With the economy still gasping for air under the weight of the financial crisis, the supervisors acknowledged that residents probably aren’t in the mood to even consider parting with more money.
“I think it’s going to be a tough sell,” said Catalpa District Supervisor Sue Hansohn. “Even though I believe it’s a good idea and a way to offset real estate taxes, in this economy people are going to look at it and be like, “Oh Lord — another tax.”’
On Friday, Aylor, who said he voted absentee because he might be out of town on Election Day, said he encountered an older lady as he was leaving the registrar’s office.
“She looked at me and said, ‘I didn’t vote for that meal tax’ ” he said. “I think people just don’t understand how they could benefit from it. To maintain services at the same level with less revenue, your only choice is to raise taxes,” he said.
In April, supervisors approved a 9-percent tax increase on personal property. That means the tax bill for a home valued at $300,000 would increase about $150 per year.
Rosenberger said from what he’s heard, the reticence of residents to pass the measure is due to the perception that it’s a way to gain increased revenue. He said the intent is to avoid having to raise other taxes.
“Of course we’re cutting (expenses) too, and it’s going to continue, but that’s the only thing we have,” he said. “There’s nothing else to tax. If you had this, it would help take the burden off the others. It’s not to try to gather more money, the purpose is to try to keep from having to put more and more on real estate and personal property.”
Chase said the money would go into the general fund and that it would help increase revenue.
“I think if people understand it, they’re going to vote for it,” said Chase, “but they see the word ‘tax’ and they go up in the air. I just feel it’s absolutely critical.”
Regardless of its nomenclature, Chase said he wished people would consider it more of a user fee. “You eat out by choice,” Chase said.
Another try unlikely
While everyone stopped short of predicting the outcome, if the measure fails again, Hansohn said it’s probably time to let it go for now.
“I’d have grave reservations about putting it back on,” she said.
Aylor said he would consider introducing it again in lieu of raising other taxes. Doing so would be legal, said County Attorney Roy Thorpe.
“Although, in 2006, the General Assembly considered limiting the number of times referenda may be held to authorize a county meals tax, the restriction was never enacted,” said Thorpe. “The question can therefore be placed before the voters repeatedly.”
Meanwhile, consideration of an unprecedented town-county deal continues. Introduced this summer, the agreement would allow the town — which already charges a meals tax — to expand its borders.
In exchange, the town would hand over control of its sewer and water infrastructure to a yet-to-be formed authority that would oversee all aspects of sewer and water for both the town and county.
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Reader Reactions
To:Citizen1
It’s a screen name not (Mis-spelled), We don’t need more schools, We need Business Managers to Run the school budget instead of Former teachers that can not balance there own check books.
I need a few hundred dollars tacked on to my tax bill because of all the foreclosed homes the county cannot fill there coffers, No matter that my property Value has declined, That should cause a tax reduction.
Cut Programs and quit giving away funds to former teachers, that couldn’t make it in the business world to begin with.
The only service I get from the county is a Tax cashing window!
To “Citzen” First, I think we need to support schools so you can learn to spell citizen. Second, what you call the school board head, the superintendent didn’t have a five million dollar contract. Your figures need some checking.
The meals tax would be a good thing for Culpeper, unfortunately, most people don’t understand and will vote against it. I guess you’d rather have a few hundred dollars tacked on to your bill all at once than a few cents each time you eat in the county or grab something on the run at a local grocery. While building has stopped and foreclosures are on the rise, people are still eating out, we should be taking advantage of this!
Hillary Hansohn is going to keep pushing new and higher taxes every year that she remains in office. Until we replace these people we have no right to complain. Vote them out or keep paying for their incompetence.
The Supervisors act like they have no part in whether or not the meal tax will go or not! What baloney! They are so complacent, yet will moan about low revenue. There are 7 members of the Board of Supes - did any of them take time to go around their districts and talk to people? Maybe set up a Q & A session or a town hall type get together either all toghether or out in their areas? The answer of course is a big fat NO, just like the passing of the meals tax. These gentlemen and lady are not going out of their way to “work” for their portions of the Culpeper community. Why aren’t we telling them what we want? And who will work towards runnning against some of these gems during the next election?
The TAX is D.O.A.- What service do I get for more tax? I pump my own water,I store my own waste,I pay for trash service and I contribute to the local Vol. Firedeptment! When the Personal property Tax was raised $1 a Hundred Mr. Rosenberger replyed “ I didn’t think it would add that much more to everyone’s tax bill.
I suggest the board would be better served to Cut expenditers rather than farm for more revenue, Example paying the fired School board head out of his 5 millon dollar contract.
“If it walsk like a duck….“ Chase may call it a “user fee” but a tax by any other name is still a tax. Some might say that taxes are a form of socialism, but they are a necessity and here to stay despite being initiated by our Republican BOS or a Democratic Congress. we may be pressured into believing that it is this or some other tax,but I am not convinced. Pros and Cons.
Pros:
1.It is considered an equitable tax in as much as one does not have to eat out.
2. There is a shortfall in government revenue, the meals tax might remedy a portion of that.
Cons:
1. Hard on the small Mom & Pop stores for paperwork and reporting. Passing the cost on to the customer makes them less competitive to the next county w/o the meals tax. Also requires more man hours and possibly more labor cost to process the paper work. Now Sam the shopkeeper cannot stay in business!
2. How much will this generate? The figures are there, but voters did not get this info.
3. Wasn’t the county’s decisions that got us in this mess in the first place?
4. What has the county done to reduce spending?
5. If the town and county spent more time in collaboration to serve the citizens, maybe we would not need yet another tax increase!!
6. The timing is terrible! I have met so mant people recently who have lost their jobs, closed their businesses and are struggling to keep the lights and heat on.
BOS, accept your own responsibility for the fix Culpeper is in, go back to the drawing board and work out a better plan.
Please, do not ask me to vote for something that you have failed to justify as necessary!
Stop squabbling with the town and as they say on SNL, “Fix it.“
It’s business as usual. They wait until all the absentees have voted and three days before the election to try to sell it. And they don’t explain any numbers relative to the town’s tax and how it really helps keep the town’s real estate tax lower. Without the meals tax the town’s real estate the town’s real estate tax rate would be at least 22 cents per $100 instead of 9 cents. Do the math, BOS, and you might make your case. However, all the behind closed doors and lack of information makes people rail against any proposed tax. Too bad people are educated on the merits of the program. Instead of a bunch of nothing in the Culpeper Minutes sent to every house, why not inform? Oh wait, and educated public is a dangerous public, right?
It’s a fact of live. Taxes are going to go up whether we have a meals tax or not. It’s just more and more taxing us to death.


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